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The admin of Godot forums keeps locking the discussion concerning Godot's governance.
Several people attacked my character in a thread which discussed the fact of Godot leadership founding commercial companies for Godot.
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#GodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot
Several people attacked my character in a thread which discussed the fact of Godot leadership founding commercial companies for Godot.
web.archive.org/web/2023021519…
#GodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot
Non-archived version available here: godotforums.org/d/32795-commer…
Someone in the discussion asked what kind of goal I have in mind. After the discussion got locked, I asked him the same question in private.
He left the private conversation, that's exactly how cultists operate, they don't answer the questions. 😉
He left the private conversation, that's exactly how cultists operate, they don't answer the questions. 😉
In 2020 I realistically was considering making Witchcrafter in Godot.
It was (and is) very promoted, all around was bragging about it, I was envy of some glossy features and as a budding #indiedev I thought it's an easy way.
But why I didn't moved to #Godot in the end?
🧵
It was (and is) very promoted, all around was bragging about it, I was envy of some glossy features and as a budding #indiedev I thought it's an easy way.
But why I didn't moved to #Godot in the end?
🧵
Godot is presented to us almost anywhere I can imagine, so it's not strange I bumped into it at some point.
It is also promoted as a perfect tool for indiedevs with a lot of tutorials and examples and ngl - it's impressive (the same with Unity, I also considered moving to it).
It is also promoted as a perfect tool for indiedevs with a lot of tutorials and examples and ngl - it's impressive (the same with Unity, I also considered moving to it).
Envy of the glossy features, out of the box solutions, I started making a simple platformer base with all the stuff I want.
But, oh boy, was I misguided by the easy learning curve.
Having using Unity, Defold, Blitz 3D and some other smaller engines I though it would be natural.
But, oh boy, was I misguided by the easy learning curve.
Having using Unity, Defold, Blitz 3D and some other smaller engines I though it would be natural.
When I say that Juan keeps striking community with his stupidity, I mean it. @reduzio expresses his "Messiah complex", once again.
"What kind of jokes are these?", you may ask. Let's see what #Godoctor says about Juan, cult leader of #GodotEngine.
#CancelGodotEngine #GodotCult
"What kind of jokes are these?", you may ask. Let's see what #Godoctor says about Juan, cult leader of #GodotEngine.
#CancelGodotEngine #GodotCult
The "Messiah complex" of Juan stems from his desire to save the world from those "evil" corporations. Taken together with above, he probably wants to show that he's a "Superman":
But perhaps this has more deep roots. Recall the "Thanos" tweet of Juan? Perhaps this "Godot meteor" is connected with his desire to "purge" the userbase that use "commercial software"?
Godot leadership betrays their ideology!
Lead developer @reduzio and project manager @Akien launched a commercial company called W4 Games!
Free and #OpenSource game engine wants to have a cake and eat it too!
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot #GameDev
Lead developer @reduzio and project manager @Akien launched a commercial company called W4 Games!
Free and #OpenSource game engine wants to have a cake and eat it too!
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot #GameDev
W4 Games website.
Notice how Godot leadership deliberately leaves out important information when they say it's a company of "Godot veterans", but those "Godot veterans" and Godot leadership are the same persons.
w4games.com
Notice how Godot leadership deliberately leaves out important information when they say it's a company of "Godot veterans", but those "Godot veterans" and Godot leadership are the same persons.
w4games.com
Feel free to familiarize yourself with my previous threads on this topic to understand why Godot is not community-driven and my explanation of why the mentality of Godot leadership is not open as you might have expected:
Juan "The Great", aka @reduzio, once said:
"The world does not care about you or what you think, or about your world views. Keep those to yourself."
These are petty tyrant's advice that undermine critical thinking, creativity, individuality...
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
"The world does not care about you or what you think, or about your world views. Keep those to yourself."
These are petty tyrant's advice that undermine critical thinking, creativity, individuality...
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Opinion on the above @reduzio advice from someone who does not have an idea what #Godot represents.
In retrospect, I was highly attached to #GodotEngine, and I used to think that there's something wrong with me.
Having access to outside opinion is crucial.
#GodotCult #IGotOut
In retrospect, I was highly attached to #GodotEngine, and I used to think that there's something wrong with me.
Having access to outside opinion is crucial.
#GodotCult #IGotOut
So yeah, I did reach out to someone from the outside, as you see above. Otherwise, I'd still be contributing to Godot and continue being deluded by Juan's cult indoctrination.
I recall a proposal in Godot which suggested to hire a full time marketing person. This is exactly how cult communities tend to fixate on promoting their ideology. Why not just make the product speak for itself?
#GodotEngine #GodotCult #CancelGodotEngine
github.com/godotengine/go…
#GodotEngine #GodotCult #CancelGodotEngine
github.com/godotengine/go…
Even then, Godot doesn't need a marketing representative, because Godot's toxic leadership achieved this by making a cult out of Godot already. Proposals like above are simply a byproduct, because the process of promoting Godot is built into their ideology.
Godot followers will go out of their ways and suggest Godot in other unrelated communities. They'll write bad reviews on other engines to make Godot stand out. They achieve their superficial and unrealistic image of superiority by putting others down.
Behavior of Juan, aka @reduzio, lead developer of @godotengine, can be summarized as undue influence, which manifests as hypocrisy, lack of empathy, inattentiveness, irresponsibility.
Below is my critical analysis.
#GodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot #GodotCult #CancelGodotEngine
Below is my critical analysis.
#GodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot #GodotCult #CancelGodotEngine
Juan posses a belief that he's destined to help people to make great games. He attempts to create a game engine which could allow users to create both casual and AAA games with little to no effort. But if you run after two hares, you will catch neither.
Juan focuses his efforts of making the engine accessible to everyone. He will always prioritize features that make the image of Godot look nice in the eyes of beholder, like editor features or movie maker mode, at the expense of neglecting core parts of the engine.
Expressing that people are sane is seen as an insinuation and a slippery slope in #GodotEngine community. 🤦♂️
But when #Godot community calls others insane when they talk about Godot shortcomings, it's fine. 🤷♂️
To quote @Akien: "Let's not go there please." 😉
#TruthAboutGodot
But when #Godot community calls others insane when they talk about Godot shortcomings, it's fine. 🤷♂️
To quote @Akien: "Let's not go there please." 😉
#TruthAboutGodot
To give this context, we talked about master/slave terminology in Godot and IT. You can even see articles such as these:
glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/12083
glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/12083
Ironically, what you read above totally describes Godot. It's one of the biggest echo chambers out there in #OpenSource game #GameDev community, because dissenting opinion about Godot is seen with hostility. This is also the reason why I say that Godot leadership is hypocritical.
I could say a lot of things about Godot. I could write a book about it. But frankly, such a book already exists: George Orwell's "1984".
Unless you went through Godot as a contributor, you may fail to find analogies, and only a few will notice.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Unless you went through Godot as a contributor, you may fail to find analogies, and only a few will notice.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Godot's "Big Brother" is watching you! 👁
Recall Xananax? That Godot's Discord admin. I'm not sure whether he still moderates Godot, but he had a particular signature, something like:
"Absolutely watching you 👁"
Creepy, right? 😱
"Absolutely watching you 👁"
Creepy, right? 😱
Godot cultists make up conspiracy theories about me on their subreddit again. Give me a break! 😂
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #GodotCult
reddit.com/r/godot/commen…
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #GodotCult
reddit.com/r/godot/commen…
First and foremost, the fact that Godot cultists call me a conspiracy theorist is nothing new. See my other thread (make sure to scroll down to see the educational video on cults):
The fact that they keep talking about me in this context is really good, because all their words and actions prove everything about Godot being a cult.
I oftentimes read that #Godot's development is driven by passion and out of love for those who make games. Why not just develop #GodotEngine independently, then? Why receive donations? What, having passion is no longer enough for Godot to thrive?
#CancelGodotEngine
#CancelGodotEngine
This so-called "love" that the lead developer of Godot tries to portrait, Juan, aka @reduzio, is nothing more but love bombing. This "love" is accompanied by "become Patron", which makes it a truly IT cult organization which aims to milk money.
You'll read phrases like "preaching gospel of Godot" from those who donated to Godot via Patreon already. I'm not kidding, you can look at articles such as this one.
nikleet.com/blog/2017/11/2…
nikleet.com/blog/2017/11/2…
Some Godot followers keep saying to me that I should stop talking negatively about Godot, saying that this is unhealthy or excessive. The more you try to discourage me to stop this, the more this motivates me to talk negatively about Godot! 🙂
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Because this amount of gaslighting and slandering as done by Godot followers is very alarming. To Godot followers, it's like I never existed in the first place... I repeat: I'm an ex-developer of Godot. You can verify this for yourself by launching Godot's "About" window.
I do not hide anything about myself. I'm a real person, with a real name.
Godot cult: instead of discussing facts, Godot followers choose to publicly label me as insane, crazy, mentally-ill, suggest professional help, get therapy etc.
The following are examples of such toxic behavior.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #Godoctor
The following are examples of such toxic behavior.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #Godoctor
When people call others crazy or suggest professional help in this context, then this what describes gaslighting, a very destructive form of manipulation:
verywellmind.com/is-someone-gas…
verywellmind.com/is-someone-gas…
Before showing examples, I'd like you to understand that Godot shows all signs of having collective narcissism qualities:
Some Unity users and even moderators within Unity community are infected with the futile ideology of waiting for Godot! This must be fixed! Let me explain why.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #Unity3D #Unity #GameDev
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #Unity3D #Unity #GameDev
As you may know, Unity recently merged with ironSource: blog.unity.com/news/welcome-i…
This created a mass hysteria on Unity forums. Because of this, Unity folks were heavily discussing Godot there to consider switching to as an alternative to Unity, so I decided to share my perspective there:
forum.unity.com/threads/im-an-…
forum.unity.com/threads/im-an-…
Juan's hypocrisy in one picture, aka @reduzio! He publicly says that he encourages public discussions. But privately, he will tell you that expressing disagreement in private is far more productive and useful!
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
I totally realize that everybody in Godot community simply adore Juan, but he has undue influence over you, so let me explain this. Feel free to read this before continuing:
Disagreements are at the heart of every fruitful discussion. If you agree, that's fine. If you disagree, that's also fine, because disagreement challenges different viewpoints that lead to actual consensus. You can read this article which explains this:
noodle.com/articles/its-i…
noodle.com/articles/its-i…
Juan's hypocrisy: talks about critical thinking, but allows none in Godot community.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Juan says that they would like to "prevent bloat". He also says that they "refuse by default": godotengine.org/article/will-y…
The problem is that they attract many ideas, and have to refuse all of them, and make people disappointed with the unclear development process.
Solution: write development philosophy, define scope. But no! Juan wants people to keep people deluded:
Solution: write development philosophy, define scope. But no! Juan wants people to keep people deluded:
People who get offended by #CancelGodotEngine say that it's done in bad faith, vengeance, or say that I'm biased, angry, arrogant, corrupt, making up conspiracy theories, or even suggest that I need professional help! Oh, and a cultist, sure! Did I miss anything, #GodotEngine? 🤔
Surprise! All people who say those things are Godot cult followers: users, developers, designers, artists, donators, and even people who haven't tried Godot yet, but simply know about it and follow its development and would like to use it in the future.
However, if you're not a Godot follower and you share the same accusations towards me as done by Godot followers, please let me know! I'm interested to know your perspective, I'd like to help people, I want to deliver my message in such a way that it's understood by most people.
Godot is #OpenSource, but it doesn't mean that the mentality of Godot is open. They use their corporate IT consulting processes to drive Godot's development. It's not community-driven. They see volunteers as a service (VaaS) to companies.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
In order to understand why Godot is not community-driven, take a look here first and foremost:
Godot founders, Juan and Ariel, created a company called Codenix, a game development and technology consulting company. Godot as an in-house engine used to be developed and licensed to various companies up until 2014.
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I used to trust Juan, aka @reduzio. Never again. This manipulator cannot be trusted. I'm talking about this as someone who has spent years contributing to @GodotEngine.
Whatever you decide to do with Godot, please, do not give money to them.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Whatever you decide to do with Godot, please, do not give money to them.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
If you're not aware of manipulation techniques, you'll instantly believe Juan, since he is very skillful in gaslighting. So skillful to the point that what you see on the fragment above must be broken down into smaller pieces and be explained in detail.
I am an open and honest person. But in a community-driven project, where Godot explicitly mentions that "community-driven" implies "open discussion", Juan wants to feel me guilty for being an open person, which is ridiculous.
I posted at #GameDev subreddit describing my experience in Godot community. As expected, moderators immediately removed it. I presented it as a postmortem experience, and I have followed the rules, but they permanently banned me from /r/gamedev.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Before removal, someone said that my feedback is unhelpful. I replied that I cannot make it factual, otherwise my post may be deleted, just like it happened with my previous post that moderators deleted two month ago:
If you scroll down, you'll read a testimony of someone who actually agreed to what I've described (Godot is a cult). Usually, these kind of comments also get heavily downvoted on Reddit, and this is a consistent pattern I've noticed two months ago as well:
People of #GameDev used to raise reasonable questions about @GodotEngine when it went #OpenSource!
The leadership of Godot acts like contract game developers that benefit from free labor, which explains everything about Godot's governance.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
The leadership of Godot acts like contract game developers that benefit from free labor, which explains everything about Godot's governance.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
You can read my analysis as an ex-contributor regarding Godot's governance model which confirms the above comments:
Commenting on "what's wrong with that" regarding free labor:
The lead developer Juan Linietsky (@reduzio) wrote that there's "true meritocracy" in Godot. But if you ask him directly, he says that everything is based on trust, and "not meritocracy":
The lead developer Juan Linietsky (@reduzio) wrote that there's "true meritocracy" in Godot. But if you ask him directly, he says that everything is based on trust, and "not meritocracy":
The Russian member and maintainer of @godotengine, called @YuriSizov, aka pycbouh, and other people like him, will destroy Godot faster than me. Let me explain why.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Russian maintainer, @YuriSizov, joined Godot community in 2020 or so. While Godot already had problems with its governance, @YuriSizov exacerbated it further. In fact, the reason why Godot leadership accepted him was mostly because of his toxic behavior towards Godot users.
I know the above sounds like a contradiction, but since Godot is governed by top-down, autocratic approach, toxic leadership thrives in Godot:
Even after quitting the Godot cult, sometimes I still find it difficult to believe that I used to participate in Godot cult in the first place... That's when you know how strong the brainwashing could get.
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine
Godot leadership cannot kill you physically. But if you get indoctrinated by Godot followers and express critical thinking, you'll get emotionally abused: "you should not talk this way", "this is your last warning", "if you keep doing this, you'll be permanently banned".
Threats like above can really fuck up the brains of adolescents, and I suspect that there's a lot of younger people who use Godot at the moment. These kind of threats are disproportionate to the situations that arise at hand. And what for? Make people obedient? At what cost?
The #CancelGodotEngine movement keeps growing. We are a team of anonymous individuals that got abused by #GodotEngine leadership, especially @reduzio.
Primary objectives:
- Remove Juan from the position of the lead developer.
- Make Godot community-driven for real.
- Allow criticism in Godot.
- Remove Juan from the position of the lead developer.
- Make Godot community-driven for real.
- Allow criticism in Godot.
Secondary objectives:
- Change Godot icon, if that's what community wants.
- If Rémi won't accept the new leader, then we'll make him leave.
- Change Godot icon, if that's what community wants.
- If Rémi won't accept the new leader, then we'll make him leave.
